hey i recently got a hold of my dads old 78 ford and im restoring it for him i have got must of the body work done and now its time to build the motor and i dont know much about motors i want to have atleast 400 hp what size motor do i need i have a 302 block already how much hp could i get out of it.........,i need some help guys
1978 project motor help
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, May 10 2009 09:18 PM
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Posted 11 May 2009 - 10:48 AM
depending on your budget and horsepower = $$$, you might want to check out edelbrock, holley, crane, competition cams to look at various cams, heads,intakes, and carbs to what you want to achieve. you can probably squeeze out 300-350 hp out of the 302 and more out of a 351W. but since you already have a block why not just start with that? theres nothing wrong with the 302. (i have two of them) You can always look at a dual carb and intake setup too. another thing you might want to think about is to build up the tranny to handle the extra hp and torque. hope this helps a little. keep us posted.
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Posted 11 May 2009 - 11:15 AM
I have had a 302 that made 400hp.With a little head work alum in take and the right cam.It sounded like a race car.But I didnt build it.I wood go nothing smaller than a 351w.It will fit in and hook up to all your acceries.But since you have a 302 already.That is one less cost and you can speed that money somewhere else in your project.People make good horse power out of the 302 and it will run rev quick.
1977 F-150 460 makeing around 400hp ( My Pride and Joy)Told the X wife she would go
C-6 with shift kit before the truck would
L&L headers with single chamber flowmasters and turn downs and L&L ladder bars
4in ruff country lift with a 2in body kift.
35x12.50-15 mud tires on 15x10 chrome and black modular rims
cd player,2 amps,2 600watt Sony 10s
4.10 gears with a locker in the rear
Future plans is to level it up .Hate the ass end sitting higher that the front.AND scrap the crappy C-6 for a manual.
1985 Bronco 427 small block
Small cam for the moment,all aluminam top end
max cool radator,headers and 2 1/2 exhast with flowmaster and echo tips
C-6 with a 208 transfer
33x12.50-15 all terrain tires
8000 warn winch and brush guard
Needs a 5 speed and a solid front axle liek it should have came!!!!!!!!
1995 Ford F-150 Extended cab 4x4
Stock 5.8 with E40D tranny
Push button 4x4
True dual exhaust with NO cat under it.
32x12.50x15 Maxxis mudders
220,000 miles and still runs like new.
Just needs a 5 speed in it and a solid front axle like it should have came!!!!
C-6 with shift kit before the truck would
L&L headers with single chamber flowmasters and turn downs and L&L ladder bars
4in ruff country lift with a 2in body kift.
35x12.50-15 mud tires on 15x10 chrome and black modular rims
cd player,2 amps,2 600watt Sony 10s
4.10 gears with a locker in the rear
Future plans is to level it up .Hate the ass end sitting higher that the front.AND scrap the crappy C-6 for a manual.
1985 Bronco 427 small block
Small cam for the moment,all aluminam top end
max cool radator,headers and 2 1/2 exhast with flowmaster and echo tips
C-6 with a 208 transfer
33x12.50-15 all terrain tires
8000 warn winch and brush guard
Needs a 5 speed and a solid front axle liek it should have came!!!!!!!!
1995 Ford F-150 Extended cab 4x4
Stock 5.8 with E40D tranny
Push button 4x4
True dual exhaust with NO cat under it.
32x12.50x15 Maxxis mudders
220,000 miles and still runs like new.
Just needs a 5 speed in it and a solid front axle like it should have came!!!!
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Posted 11 May 2009 - 06:23 PM
thanks alot guys.............. i wanted to put a 351 in but i just got done rebuilding a c6 tranny to go in it and i didnt think the 351w would bolt up to it and i cant find a 351 cleveland anywhere so im probably gonna use the 302 block what should i do to it to get max hp and tq out of it ......budget is not a problem im whilling to spend whatever it takes
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Posted 14 May 2009 - 06:01 AM
the C6 tranny was offered in two bolt patterns that will work on either small or big blocks. to get max hp, you would want an aggressive cam, heads, exhaust,carb, and intake (look up comp cams). just make sure that you choose the right combination of components
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Posted 02 June 2009 - 03:17 PM
Bronc76 is right.Make sure that all the parts match.They will work a lot better that way.Several companies like holley and edlebrock offer top end kits that will give 300 up to 500 hp out of the box depending on the motor.If your c-6 cam off the 302 it will bolt righ tup to a 351w.If ou build the 351w you want have the weight issue or the oiling and cooling issues that you run into with the 351c ,351m and the 400.
1977 F-150 460 makeing around 400hp ( My Pride and Joy)Told the X wife she would go
C-6 with shift kit before the truck would
L&L headers with single chamber flowmasters and turn downs and L&L ladder bars
4in ruff country lift with a 2in body kift.
35x12.50-15 mud tires on 15x10 chrome and black modular rims
cd player,2 amps,2 600watt Sony 10s
4.10 gears with a locker in the rear
Future plans is to level it up .Hate the ass end sitting higher that the front.AND scrap the crappy C-6 for a manual.
1985 Bronco 427 small block
Small cam for the moment,all aluminam top end
max cool radator,headers and 2 1/2 exhast with flowmaster and echo tips
C-6 with a 208 transfer
33x12.50-15 all terrain tires
8000 warn winch and brush guard
Needs a 5 speed and a solid front axle liek it should have came!!!!!!!!
1995 Ford F-150 Extended cab 4x4
Stock 5.8 with E40D tranny
Push button 4x4
True dual exhaust with NO cat under it.
32x12.50x15 Maxxis mudders
220,000 miles and still runs like new.
Just needs a 5 speed in it and a solid front axle like it should have came!!!!
C-6 with shift kit before the truck would
L&L headers with single chamber flowmasters and turn downs and L&L ladder bars
4in ruff country lift with a 2in body kift.
35x12.50-15 mud tires on 15x10 chrome and black modular rims
cd player,2 amps,2 600watt Sony 10s
4.10 gears with a locker in the rear
Future plans is to level it up .Hate the ass end sitting higher that the front.AND scrap the crappy C-6 for a manual.
1985 Bronco 427 small block
Small cam for the moment,all aluminam top end
max cool radator,headers and 2 1/2 exhast with flowmaster and echo tips
C-6 with a 208 transfer
33x12.50-15 all terrain tires
8000 warn winch and brush guard
Needs a 5 speed and a solid front axle liek it should have came!!!!!!!!
1995 Ford F-150 Extended cab 4x4
Stock 5.8 with E40D tranny
Push button 4x4
True dual exhaust with NO cat under it.
32x12.50x15 Maxxis mudders
220,000 miles and still runs like new.
Just needs a 5 speed in it and a solid front axle like it should have came!!!!
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Posted 03 June 2009 - 02:08 PM
If your c-6 cam off the 302 it will bolt righ tup to a 351w.Bronc76 is right.Make sure that all the parts match.They will work a lot better that way.Several companies like holley and edlebrock offer top end kits that will give 300 up to 500 hp out of the box depending on the motor.If your c-6 cam off the 302 it will bolt righ tup to a 351w.If ou build the 351w you want have the weight issue or the oiling and cooling issues that you run into with the 351c ,351m and the 400.
I recommend not using a small block but go to a 460 with a 5speed ZF ttanny...just my opinion.
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